Public sentiment is predominantly negative regarding Trump's allegations about US-China relations, with a significant number of commenters expressing frustration over his perceived lack of understanding of international trade and geopolitics. Many highlight a sense of pride in India’s resilience and urge for better diplomatic approaches, questioning the efficacy and motivations behind US policies. There's a consistent call for India to reduce dependency on US tech companies and a desire for a more collaborative, less confrontational global stance.

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I think Xi thanked allied nations in helping China to defeat fascism and militarism in his speech. He just didn't mention specific countries.

sillyj96

If 20 years ago I would've told you an American president would throw a public tantrum because he didn't make the cut for the invite list to a World Dictators Party in Beijing...

gov12

Some might say that Trump is US biggest enemy.

Durian881

It is rumored that Xi Jinping didnt even say thank you.

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GetOutOfTheWhey

On this occasion, on behalf of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress, the State Council, the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, and the Central Military Commission, I pay high tribute to all the veterans, comrades, patriots and officers in China who took part in the War of Resistance and all the Chinese at home and abroad who contributed significantly to the victory of the War. I extend heartfelt gratitude to foreign governments and friends who supported and assisted the Chinese people in resisting aggression. I also warmly welcome all the foreign guests and representatives of the armed forces of foreign countries present today.

I'm sorry Xi or the Chinese people couldn't do a separate speech dedicated to you Trump Or America. So vain. As if there weren't other members in the allies pulling their weight.

CanChong

At least he’s still alive. Was worried for a sec Vance going to be president.

porncollecter69

He is urging China to thank them after slapped them with 100%+ tariffs?

XiaoBij

Is this another "have you even said thank you once" kind of situation?

statyin

On one hand they complained that Japan changed the textbooks to hide the massacres and rapes in WW2.

On the other hand they themselves hide the fact that the west played a crucial role in saving their country, and the war was won under the Republic of China (Taiwan) government. 

Mao himself said that the Japanese invasion helped the CCP overthrow the government after WW2.

Real history is a lot uglier than most people want to admit.

DaySecure7642

finally someone has pointed out China's ungratefulness towards the US. The US has rescued China, twice, and gotten no thanks for it. I would have preferred that someone besides trump did this but whatever.

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There are two things going on here at the same time: 

**1).)** U.S. is looking for an excuse to renegotiate trade with India. Both sides have been trying to negotiate a trade deal for quite some time, but there are huge issues: India will not sell out its agricultural base and the U.S. can’t really put tariffs on digital services from India the way it can physical imports from other nations. This makes India extremely difficult to negotiate with but at the same time, extremely important for America to strike a deal with before India erodes America’s white collar base without giving reciprocal access to its consumer market. You simply can’t put tariffs on your IT guy in Bangalore the way you can car parts from Germany because no physical good is crossing a physical border.

What’s happening now is that the gloves are coming off: America is trying to play hardball and express displeasure with India. The problem is that India is just in the flat out superior negotiating position. America may have a technology edge but this is being eroded and India is trending towards further expansion economically and in terms of human capital. Withholding technological transfer to India will not work, because the technological gatekeeping the U.S. used in the past is already being eroded by China. If the U.S. continues then it opens up the U.S. to IP/technological theft not just from China but India as well, which will be fatal to U.S. domestic industry. 

The U.S. should have renegotiated trade deals with China and India after the 2008 financial crisis but both the Chinese and the Indians were too effective at stalling the negotiations to the point that now they have the upper hand. Now they are trying to make up for lost time and doing too much from too weak of a bargaining position. 

**2.)** The bigger issue is that the recent India - Pakistan conflict exposed America’s position. During the conflict Pakistan could reliably count on diplomatic support from Turkey, China, **and America**. India received no support at all from the Quad during this conflict. The IMF even financially bailed Pakistan out during the conflict and Trump/Vance attempted to mediate on behalf of Pakistan while equivocating the two sides internationally. For India, this was a massive red line. 

Subsequently, Trump invited General Asif Munir (ie not Pakistan’s PM) to the White House to negotiate using Pakistani airspace to bomb Iran. This demonstrated to India that the U.S. simply will never give up Pakistan. 

So now India in a position where it sees that the U.S. is not only unreliable diplomatically but that it will always prioritize relations with its mortal enemy *and* that will try to impede India’s technological development further. 

I’d argue that all of this was very predictable.

CoachKoranGodwin

He already tanked the relation with India. 
Even if he backtracks tomorrow, which we all doubt, there is no guarantee that he wouldn’t change his mood again the day after. 
And even if he is out of office we now all have seen, that Americans could vote another lunatic into office anytime. 
Trump is the beginning of the end of US dominance. We, the world, should thank him for this.

mastermindman99

An entire new generation of Indians, born from the late 90s to 2000s will now learn &amp; internalize why their previous generations took a cautious distrustful approach with the US. Sigh. This is penny wise pound foolish move by Trump.

PersonNPlusOne

Thing is, India never relied on US. So title is kinda...you know..

JustGulabjamun

I’ll agree about the bizzare nice treatment of Pakistan and China  but the stuff about secondary sanctions over Russian oil is pretty classic American stuff and viewed from a Rus/Ukr view instead of a south Asian foreign policy one makes a lot of sense.

spinosaurs70

What I don’t quite understand is why the U.S. deep state appears to be giving Trump so much leeway.

The strategic direction of a nation is shaped over years—often decades—not in reaction to short-term political shifts.

Trump now seems singularly focused on forcing Russia to end the war. But even if that happens in the next couple of months, the underlying damage to U.S. alliances and trust is already done. The relationship with key partners is strained, perhaps irreparably.

So what exactly is the endgame here?

curiousstrider

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Dean_46

I’m not sure there’s much I can add here that hasn’t been said already. It’s a huge mistake for the US to antagonise both India and Brazil at the same time, especially since it’s for idiotic reasons in the first place. 

The best way to get both nations to limit their trade with Russia is to offer them long term stable commitments that help improve them. India has a population of well over 1.4 billion and one that is still growing. 

The other way to get those countries to limit their trade with Russia is to let them see that Russia is an unreliable partner and one that isn’t capable of offering much. That’s something they need to experience on their own terms and not be subject to threats of sanctions or tariffs. 

Biden had a much better grasp of geopolitics.

Ethereal-Zenith

If India genuinely does employ a pragmatic and transactional approach to relations with major powers beyond its region then surely a few ripples in US bilateral affairs can be managed easily 

The Indian logic of buying Russian oil is it is simply pursuing its interests. ‘We do balancing, it’s the cheapest option and our economy takes precedence, Ukraine is not our fight’. Fair enough.

The US logic is it is simply pursuing its own interests. ‘We have an opportunity to humble Russia and protect Ukraine, India’s support of Russia enables them and imposes costs on the US in terms of military aid and posture’. Fair enough. If Russia can be stopped the US can get troops out of Europe quicker.

Strong_Remove_2976

Just 25? Go to the back of queue. They ripped 80+ years of relationship with us.

Jazzlike_770

Why did you reelect Trump, my American friends? But on a more serious note I think that indian people and the American people are very much aligned - far more stable than earlier. I don't think that the president can spoil this much.

houstonrice

That's someone's plan, no doubt. Or the plan of a number of state actors. Or both, either way.

DanoPinyon

trump is risks thanking every countries relation

Legitimate-Proof5152

Consider it tanked. 

The Indian-US rapprochement of the last few years bucked a decades long trend of misalignment and disconnect. Trump’s erratic behavior now basically confirms some of the long held fears and prejudices in India regarding Western interests and influence.

Trump really is a bull in a China Shop

Open_Management7430

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Ahelex

Y2KGB

scuba_scouse

ConsequenceVast3948

obelix_dogmatix

No way. If it did, Trump would have claimed the US invented the best, biggest disease in all of history, just because we can.

Comfortable-Dish1236

Designed in the US, produced in China. Add some tariff quick.

General-Priority-479

So the first Wuhan cases , were actually in the United States?

JawasHoudini

iamelloyello

big-shirtless-ron

mrpoopsocks

Yeah, but it didn't though. It originated in China.

Like I'm not going to pretend it and an unduly high number of other recent health catastrophes didn't originate in China just because Trump's a fucking disaster.

FenianBastard_

Remote-Letterhead844

Great, now we're in a stupidity contest with China

zookytar

China talking about Covid is like Trump talking about tariffs.

2 of the worlds biggest liars, who will always care more about their pathetic insecure image than the truth.

andrewlh

This would explain why event 201 one was held in the United States months before Covid was “discovered.”

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise

Almost as they knew already that this was going to happen… it’s just too much of a coincidence.

InterstellarReddit

Ah yes, COVID-19 
Originating in the US.

And totally not the market a block away from the Wuhan Institute of Virology where research on various coronaviruses was being conducted that all information regarding that lab is still classified by the Chinese government. 

Gotcha.

(Edit, spelling)

Lunardextrose9

These motherFrs have some nerve. They unleash a pandemic that kills millions around the globe. Turns the lives of billions upside down for years. Regardless if it was a lab leak or a wet market cross contamination, they failed to contain it, they failed to work and share information to help change the course of the virus. That government and it's commie leadership have a debt to pay.

Add, if nothing else they should be forced under WHO examination and oversight for a period of time. As should any country. A good example of this would be right now in the U.S with the bird flu. The current administration can't be trusted to manage this and we as a planet need a way to safe guard ourselves beyond corrupt governments and incompetent leaders. Remember the Spanish flu as mentioned below killed millions in 1918/19 and was a strain of bird flu.

Centauri____

I honestly don't care anymore where it originated. 7 million people worldwide are linked to Covid death totals.

I care that our president's response to that deadly of a virus was to completely screw the pooch on handling it and suggest to people they should inject bleach in their veins and underplayed vaccines, especially after we finally fucking got them.

FUCK TRUMP.

calamnet2

China actually once blamed India for it, too. According to them, Wuhan was part of India.

My personal view is that China screwed up, I view that it was just a virus that was studied in the lab and lab techs massively screwed up, rather than it was man-made, but what is done is done, I just hope China learnt the lesson to further strict their biological laboratories.

Nothing to do with listening to Right-Wing half-wits or Agent Krasnovs anti-scientific rumblings, just my view, may it be wrong or right I accept both, I maintain open mind, it has happened I just wish we learned from it...and by 'we' I mean 99.99% of the countries because its obvious the United States didn't still get the memo.

GladCreme8654

Trumps a moron and I voted for Biden and Harris  but even China has to be ridiculous to make a stupid statement like that.

amn70

Anyone else ever wonder if Covid was unleashed in response to the mass protests in China at the time as a way to force people to stay home instead of uniting and fighting back against their government?

cammontenger

They are literally trying to outdick each other just out of spite. This is what happens when 2 governments are run by immature babies

TwoKool115

[The world!](https://i.redd.it/ota6qucttru91.jpg)

listentomenow

US, Russia, China... children and bullies in charge. What examples to set for the young people of the world.

jeffreynothing

The old Uno Reverse Card is in play I see

AnonymousTimewaster

airbag23

No, whichever way China tries to cut it, Covid 19 originated in Wuhan, China probably from an accidental lab release from the virus lab in the City.

Still waiting for the definitive report on this as it affected literally billions of people and destroyed lives and families across the World.

Common-Ad6470

Why can't you just say you started it and move on!?

unpronouncedable

SJSUMichael

Still absurd no one has ever had the balls to point fingers to the actual source despite it being pretty blatant.

AliceLunar

There's been talk about the amount of military that were ill with respiratory related illnesses during the 2019 military games in wuhan and how it very well could have been COVID *months* before it had been "announced." 

I think China knows this and has been keeping the peace by not acknowledging these conspiracy theories - but at this point, why not just put all the info out there? 


Strange times.

Not_kilg0reTrout

ch4ppi_revived

Just now? Why not 4 years ago when people still cared about covid?

nuttininyou

Holy crap, even world leaders are just high school mean girls. I hate this species for letting these people ruin things.

Mighty_Taco18

im all for Trump being shit on, but yeah that makes no sense.

Outbreak started in china and there were no cases in the US until after

Doc-11th

This is just as beliveable as their statistics for how many Chinese citizens died of covid.

redconvict

I hate trump, and I support China against him, but this is why we have to be careful about getting into bed with China. There's no level they won't sink to, including outright ridiculousness like this. They still haven't apologized to the rest of the world for killing nearly seven million people, now they want to suggest it didn't originate in Wuhan? What a joke.

The first cases just happened to spring up in a town where they have a lab researching these exact viruses, but somehow came from the US?

NoxAstrumis1

Well the Chinese are 1/2 right; originated here in WA at Providence hospital in Everett. AFTER the Chinese worker returned from China and brought it WITH him.

shelbyrobinson

China is trolling the Trump administration so much right now it’s hilarious. It’s high school as fuck but I’m enjoying watching right wing Americans take the bait.

OneSmoothCactus

It’s the Italian disease!!!!   /s


(See the history of blaming in infectious diseases)

Polyman71

Good old "he who smelt it dealt it" excuse.

Edit: But in this case it almost feels more like

US: China, it was you!  
China: Nuh-uh! He who smelt it dealt it!  
US: Everyone heard you fart!  
China: No, you!  
US: There's even a brown stain running down the back of your pants...

PARANOIAH

This is like a game of allegation Tennis 🤷‍♂️

MystoXD

Is China implying that Li Wenliang never existed? /s

Thank God he sounded the alarm about the emergence of coronavirus in Wuhan.

mikebanetbc

Can confirm, it actually originated in a Costco in Gilbert, Arizona.

CarolusRex13x

It is pretty obvious china let it out to quell the protests at the time. Just didn't understand the significance of it. Obligatory I'm not a Trump supporter

SpungyDanglin69

CelticSith

usedkleenx

d1andonly

Lmao Xi and the CCP are literally incapable of admitting fault for covid because that would make the CCP look weak to its heavily controlled populous.

HomeworkOwn2146

:-D HaHaHaHahaha! The CCP is so desperate to live down that deadly blunder. The Wuhan Virology Laboratory had consistently failed its safety tests for a year and a half before COVID hit the streets. It’s been proven and verified that the COVID virus had been collected from bats inside the lab for study. Oh CCP. Grow up!

DerekCurrie

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POGsarehatedbyGod

Ok I'm on China's side in this whole tarrif thing (And ONLY this whole tariffs thing), but that's absurd.

AndyThePig

this time india need to balance exports otherwise we'll see same "all eggs in one basket" phenomena.

Effective-Buyer9118

fuse_bulb

Mera naya baap, mera naya baap 😂


this step will take india back to 100yr.

Agreeable_Drama6340

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Atul-__-Chaurasia

how many times they are gonna chnage thier father?? weren't they the one who spomser paksitan all the weapons?

sinner_bae

zeuscall2911

Galwan mai soldiers sheed hue, unki shadat bhool gaye kya hum sab ! This man is a joke.

Few_Walk_5897

nmm107

TreBliGReads

Poor soldiers die fighting each other and the leaders shake hands for the sake of better economics. The life of a soldier is that cheap.

Whiskey-Tang0

depooh

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Reasonable_Egg_6603

I got a laugh remembering the 2019 boycott china campaign.

raviyadav432

“Geopolitics” - bhakts probably coping

slazengere

PossibleGazelle519

Does this mean I can order from AliExpress without customs taking a chunk from my 500 rs joystick

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